When I have a symbol, or nested symbol that I am trying to override, it is often buried quite deep in the symbol hierarchy. It is very inefficient to have to navigate through the entire menu again to find the symbol that might just be in the parent directory.
So, within the override menu, if the breadcrumbs at the top were actual links that can be clicked to GO to that directory, it would much easier to do. And if not that, perhaps there is a “back” button up there which allows us to go up the directory tree.
Picking an option from a drop-down menu when we don’t remember the name of a style or element can be a real pain. The mouse cursor covers unnecessary distances, and the loading time for the next panel takes too long.
I have attached a simple comparison between Sketch’s current performance and some suggestions of direction to make it faster and more efficient to work with.
This is a very nice idea, but it’s not something that is trivial to implement. I don’t think I can overstate how much time and work it would take.
I really hope we see some improvements along this line from Apple this WWDC on Mac menus to make this possible! I really like that ‘home’ button and an overview of the path in the header.
Muahahha I remember Sketch did something like this once where the overrides menu was replaced with expandable sections and the entire sketch community revolted. This is definitely a tricky topic!
I’m not sure if waiting for Apple’s moves should keep you on hold with UI changes in Sketch. I believe some of market players gains on your decision making model.
That piece of Sketch UI is slowing us and it should have been redesigned a few years ago. I can water this forum with examples like this. But after seeing yours arguments, I’m not sure if it’s not a waste.
Can you show us some screenshots of the implementation?
Of course, but planning is key. It will be a multi-quarter project and we don’t want Apple to pull the carpet from under our feet with some huge changes that put us back at square one.
I don’t personally have any screenshots, sorry - but yes. The aim of the forum going forward is for us to share some things that are WIP and to gain early feedback!
I think I saw a discussion about this in these forums as it relates to symbols, but it applies here as well… it would be nice if there was a way to more easily traverse to nearby groups in the dropdown, instead of being only in the current group, or having to start at the very top. It would have allowed for the user in the first video to more quickly navigate from black to bold group. The inclusion of an up arrow or something to jump up a level might suffice.
@here As mentioned before, it’s difficult to improve our menus, so that’s not an option for now. However, we do recognize the need for better navigation. We have a possible solution via the command bar, which is available in the beta now!
Hey, thanks for taking the time to look at this and for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate it.
I personally don’t experience this issue, but I can imagine it could be challenging for some. One thing you can do is drag the Command Bar to the position you prefer, and it will appear in that position every time you open it (though it does return to its default position after you’ve closed the document).
This is something we can look into. Thanks!
We’ll also look into this.
That is one option. You can also double-click or press Return.
This is not very different from the (old) menus. And now it’s possible to use ⌃⌘R for quick access. I got used to this quite quickly
All in all, I’d like to recommend using the keyboard and shortcuts as well. It is a big time-saver for me!
