Some issues in the new version

Some nice new features, but also some things I’m struggling with:

  • sometimes I can’t select an object that is right beside another object. Especially symbols. Frustrating even when using Cmd or option.. it just won’t click into it. Sometimes moving the object in the sidebar higher in the group hierarchy fixes it.. put that’s a pain.. it worked before without jumping through hoops to select something.

  • I have some frames that appear white on the canvas but when posted on the cloud as a prototype, the background is black. Before it was easy to fix - as there was a checkbox to set the artboard background color. Now there is no checkbox and no way to set the color. I tried setting the Frame ‘layer style’ which sets the color in Sketch.. but again on the cloud, when viewing the prototype - it shows as black.

  • I made the mistake of clicking the layout icon in the inspector when I had a frame selected. It immediately stretched the frame 3x it’s original width and mangled all of the contents. Even worse - there is no UNDO. I had to recreate the entire frame from scratch - UGH!

A few asks:

  • As I build a lot of prototypes, as card flipping workflows, every time I have to set the transition in the prototype inspector to ‘Instant’. This is really tedious. I think the default is slide. No one wants to see the whole page slide as a transition. Can either the default be set to instant - or at least let it stick and remember the last setting?

  • in the cloud frrame view, the Info popover doesn’t stay open when you go back (it used to). This creates problems for collaborators that are viewers. If they leave the prototype view and go to the canvas view, they have no idea how to get back to the prototype buttons to launch it again (because the info panel is now hidden). It provides alot of functionality and no one ever complained that it was open.. let them close it if it’s an issue.. or allow it to be pinned open.

THanks!!
P.S. the frame is great in that it can clip content.. this is very useful!

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Hi there. :waving_hand: Thanks for all the feedback. Let me go through and address each of your points.


:one: Sometimes I can’t select an object that is right beside another object.

This doesn’t sound right. :thinking: Could you please supply an example file/video, and I can take a closer look. If you’d prefer to keep it private, you can email productsupport@sketch.com with this information. Thanks.


:two: I have some frames that appear white on the canvas but when posted on the cloud as a prototype, the background is black.

There is an additional Include fills as content checkbox below the Fill which will include the Fill anywhere it appears: Prototypes, Image Exports and Symbol Instances. If you check this, then your white Fill will be included.


:three: I made the mistake of clicking the layout icon in the inspector when I had a frame selected. Even worse - there is no UNDO.

You should definitely be able to undo this action with the standard Edit > Undo ⌘Z action. If this is not working for you, please do email productsupport@sketch.com and we’ll be able to look further into this for you.


:four: As I build a lot of prototypes, every time I have to set the transition in the prototype inspector to ‘Instant’. Can either the default be set to instant - or at least let it stick and remember the last setting?

Sketch will remember the last setting you used and re-apply that same setting on the next interaction that you apply. If this is not working for you, please do email productsupport@sketch.com and we’ll be able to look further into this for you.


:five: In the cloud frame view, the Info popover doesn’t stay open when you go back.

We did recently make a change so that if you closed the Info panel, then it would stay closed rather than re-open again when you navigate to another screen. However, in your case, I can see that you have not explicitly closed the panel, so I can understand why you would want for it to stay open. I will pass this request on to the web development team for consideration.

Thanks for the prompt response - and the fill checkbox!

One more thing that I forgot to mention..

  • One of the most useful interactions in the old version, is being able to copy an object from one ‘artboard’ and paste it in the same location in a different same-sized ‘artboard’. I use this hundreds of time a day. This is key functionality and basic card flipping, where you are trying to build a story. If objects are mis-aligned every time you go to the next screen.. the story fails.

With frames, it seems this ‘paste in position’ no longer works as easily. For example, if you have a base frame-A with a frame-A1 inside it.. and you drill into frame-A1, and copy and paste an object into a duplicate frame-B - you have to drill into the same frame on the other base frame-B. If the frame doesn’t exist in the other frame-B or frame-B1 it just places it in a seemingly random position.
Otherwise, if the same frames exist on both A and B, then you have to Cmd+click into the target frame or find the target frame in the sidebar to place it… It gets complicated!

Is there a way to ignore all this and just paste it into the same position on the base frame in general?

Re: getting the prototype transition to stick as a default setting
I often will re-edit the Frames (adding or removing frames, changing the order etc) .. and to make sure the new version linking is clean - I select all frames, remove the linking, and then re-link them using the ‘auto-link to right Frame’ interaction.. and then I have to reset the transition to ‘Instant’.
I’m guessing the removal and relinking of the frames resets the transition to ‘slide’

Here’s an example of the selection issue. I don’t recall running into this before. I think the problem is when an object is near selection handles, the cursor changes to a re-sizer and you can’t select.. and the re-sizer cursor doesn’t let go until you click or hover a away? Or maybe it’s the precision of clicking in the center - away from the borders. Zooming in helps.
Sorry typo - in the clip it should be ‘100%’

When it comes to copying and pasting layers, Sketch will always endeavour to place the pasted layer in the “same” position as the original, depending on where it was copied from, and where it is being copied to. In the example below, the pasted Layer will always be placed at the same XY co-ordinates as the source, relative to the Frame it is being pasted into.
If you are experiencing something different to this, then please do let us know. You can email productsupport@sketch.com with any specific files where this is happening.

I tried what you described – Auto Link to Right Frame, change the Transition from “Slide" to “Instant", delete the Links, then start over – but when I do, I still get the previously-used “Instant” option showing up as the default Transition.
If this is not what you are seeing, then please email productsupport@sketch.com with your file where this is happening.

On the selection issue, I can see what is happening now. Basically, with one layer selected, the space to the side of it is shared by two overlapping possibilities for your cursor where it is positioned: (1) rotating the selected layer, or (2) selecting the next layer. Unless you zoom in closer, thereby making everything bigger, then this overlapping area will be an issue.
I can see from the video that the orange highlight on the smaller player might suggest that that layer will be selected, but as long as the other layer’s proximity also means that that layer can be rotated, then that will take precedence. Your cursor status is a true indication of what the action will be (where in your example you can see the rotation cursor).
I appreciate that this can be frustrating at times, but what I can suggest is to either select the smaller layer first, or also possibly click on the very edge of the smaller layer rather than directly in the centre. If this doesn’t work – if both layers are very small, for example – and if zooming-in is not a preferred option, then there are still a couple of other things you can do:

With your Shift key held down, right-click on the next layer you want to add to your selection and select the layer from the list that appears. This will work, even if your cursor is showing the rotation for the other layer. See the video below for a demo.

Alternatively, you can use the Marquee tool – Edit > Select > Marquee – or just hit the “X” key. Then you can click and drag over any part of any layers that you want to select, and crucially, even if there is another layer already behind them, provided you start your drag over this area. If you want to exclude any layers from your selection, then hold down the Option key, and make sure to drag over the entire area of any layers you want to select. Both options are shown below.

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Thanks so much! I’d forgotten about the R-click selection menu.. that’s a brilliant solution for cases like this.
I haven’t run into this before - maybe it’s because my current project involves a small dot near text fields - nothing to do with the new version maybe.
Or has the hover zone gotten bigger around the selection handles with the new version? I don’t recall getting caught on this before. In the attached movie, it seems like there is a lot of space around the handles where the cursor changes to rotate cursor and prevents selection.

The ‘Paste in place’ issue I think is related to me getting used to the new ‘Frames in frames’ capability. Some of my frames can get complex with lots of groups, library symbols.. and now frames - which are great! I think I just need to get more strategic about how to use them (and pasting objects from one frame into a duplicate frame. I usually select an object in the target frame and paste into that.. as it puts it in the right place in the hierarchy.

One great thing about frames in frames - with clipping turned on, it makes it so much easier to simulate a scrolling area on a UI.. or expand/collapse or huge grids that run off the page etc.

Weird about the transition. When I tested it out .. I watched it this time and when I unlinked and then auto-linked them back together the transition dropdown switched back to Slide (from instant). But your video capture showed the opposite..
I forgot to mention I am on the latest version Version 2025.1.2 (203410) but will take another look at it.

Thanks!

Cursor: The hover zone around the layer’s edge has increased. The reason is because when you are close to the corners, you get the Resize cursor. But if you move away a bit further, then you get the Rotate cursor. Previously, we did not have the rotation option appear like this, and you had to deliberately select the specific Rotate tool to get this.

Pasting: Yes, there will be some changes to get used to, now that we have nested Frames, as the layers within these use the parent Frame’s top-left corner to determine their own unique XY co-ordinates, rather than everything using the Canvas-level Frames’s (formerly Artboard) top-left corner.

Transitions: If you are still having issues here, please send any documents and screen-recordings through to us at productsupport@sketch.com and we’ll take a look.

Yikes.. yes the increased hover zone is a major usability issue. I now see that it’s not just a one-off use case. I’m stumbling over this all the time.. just trying to click and select an object.. with no success.
It worked very well before.. you had to hold down a key like Cmd or Option to get the rotate cursor to appear - which is a much better interaction than struggling to click and select an object.
Rotating an object is more of an exception than a rule. Selecting should take precedence.
I hope this is fixed in the next update. Thanks!

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